tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8114733480292395190.post6222160774600169397..comments2023-08-26T07:39:14.787-06:00Comments on Schaffer v Udall: 2008 Colorado Senate Battle: Dueling With AbsurdicusBen DeGrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13834102063921650816noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8114733480292395190.post-88915857073379655312008-03-18T09:31:00.000-06:002008-03-18T09:31:00.000-06:00Please point out one single place where I have tol...Please point out one single place where I have told a lie. Just one, back it up with sources, not your opinions.<BR/>"Once you clarified your point, we wrote a whole post around what you claimed your first sentence said, something we would have happily done if you had been more clear the first time."<BR/><BR/>Well, I'm sorry your education has failed you to the point you don't understand my writing.<BR/><BR/>"We absolutely are saying that the scrub land character of Roan Plateau is being misrepresented and concealed by the photographs that make the news and made it into the Mark Udall commercial. That makes them propaganda in the same way that a film of any despot patting the head of a little girl is propaganda."<BR/>Yep, those two things are exactly the same thing. I can see Edi Amin now using happy little children to justify the drilling of the Roan Plateau. I think we should totally get American for American Energy to try a commercial like that.<BR/>Again, what part of showing a picture of the roan plateau is misleading? I suppose you're now going to turn that around on me and elevation a photo is taken from. I think reasonable people can look at a picture taken at ground level and a picture taken at 1000 or 10,000 feet and determine which is more relevant.<BR/>"When politicians like Mark Udall and their supporters routinely lie about the nature of the land they want to protect or any other matter of importance, they cannot be trusted to help make public decisions."<BR/>Telling a lie is quite a different thing than using campaign tactics you don't agree with. I'd love for Udall to bring a libel case against you.<BR/><BR/>"Your claim that it is impossible to understand the nature of a landscape from 1,000 feet elevation is silly and intentionally misleading. Enough Americans have bought window seats on airliners to know that."<BR/><BR/>What does one understand about the species living in the Roan Plateau from an airplane seat? I think there's a phrase that goes something like not being able to see the forest from the trees. In this case it's the total opposite. You want us to look from far away at the "forest" Instead, whats important is all the different "trees" growing there you'd like to not look at and replace with dilling rigs for your SUV.<BR/>"The last we heard corporations cannot make legally campaign contributions at all, and individuals are limited to making $2,300 donations per cycle. The Sierra Club can mobilize individuals to donate. Exxon cannot."<BR/>That's exactly why I mentioned Americans for American Energy. Corporations can make unlimited donations to 527 groups. That's the issue.<BR/>"Who are you trying to fool? This isn't a high school debating class where you get to try out an argument or a piece of propaganda and discard it if it isn't convincing."<BR/>I'm fooling you! Because this debate isn't between you and me. It's me pointing out how silly your arguments are. Every time you don't like what I have to say you jump down a level and say Udall isn't truthful without citing any specifics. Have I given you enough rope yet?johnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12432832262374097247noreply@blogger.com